The debate "Will Trump do any of his promises" was started by
July 18, 2017, 7:37 am.
By the way, neveralone is disagreeing with this statement.
14 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 28 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
neveralone posted 7 arguments, blue_rayy posted 1 argument, historybuff posted 5 arguments to the disagreers part.
MrShine, thecommunistmanifesto, SirIntegra and 11 visitors agree.
neveralone, blue_rayy, hitler, historybuff, KCave05, debatelvr, fishermo20 and 21 visitors disagree.
that is what I want and what the roots want.
while I'm not American I couldn't agree more. Canada has a similar problem as well. conservatives started saying our new prime minister was a disaster and was ruining the country the second he got elected.
politicians have turned politics into a zero sum game. the only thing that matters is whether their party wins or loses. the good of the country or the people is no longer the priority.
oh? so you changed your mind on is going to other nations and overthrowing them to save their people? and to send everyone on drugs to rehab centers to get off the drugs and keep them illegal and kick out the cartel? that's a very Republican thing of you. as you might see we both believe we're saving lives.
I am trying to show you the perspective of the common right people. who you call bigots, idiots corrupt, ect. don't get me wrong we do the same thing. that's exactly what I'm tired of. we are both just looking at a d or r in front of people's names instead of working together to come up with a better idea. the times we have done so have been the most prosperous. unlike now when we just Stonewall each other.
I choose to help people and not kill tens of thousands of them. it isn't all that complicated.
also, considering most of the developed world provides significantly more aid to their citizens the idea that it would break the government is just silly. obviously it won't break the government since alot of other countries have gone alot further.
we didn't like Obamacare. it made our lives harder for druggies.(also the poor who need it but we are willing to help those who will try to do better so we omit them from the equation) the right was saying they will take it down while the left said nothing against it. some even thought we should make it bigger. so let's say the table was turned. there's a bill that passed and you thought it's current conditions were going to break the government. the left said they will take it away while the right said they will expand it. who would you choose?
no one in the Republican camp had any ideas. their ideology says cutting is good. but that will kill thousands of people who voted for them. so despite the fact that the best thing for America is to fix the problems with Obamacare, they can't bring themselves to admit that it was a good idea that was undercut but their own obstinacy.
we didn't like the plan that is true. we expected once we got someone up there they would lead to the solution. but instead we got Trump.
let's look at health care. Republicans have absolutely no vision for how to do this. they bitches and moaned and cried about Obama care. they managed to convince stupid people that it was going to kill them and that repealing it was absolutely needed. now they get to power and realize that if they repeal they are taking health care away from 10s of millions of Americans and killing a significant number of them.
on obama, is that much different from Trump? I would say both are to blame on that.
on your other point, we wanted something better than your way. we need to just have the right leader in place to do this. I don't think Trump is that person.
no. for the entirety of Obama's Presidency the Republicans blocked everything they could to try to make Obama fail. it didn't matter if what he was doing was a good thing or not. if Obama said it then to Republicans it was a terrible plan.
flash forward to them controlling congress, the Senate and the presidency and they can't pass anything because all they know how to do is disagree.
we are not obstructing progress. we are simply pursuing a different line.
trump has failed to accomplish anything legislatively. part of this is because he is a train wreck with no idea what he's doing or what policies he wants to pursue. part of it is because the Republican are a train wreck with no idea what they should do.
they've spent so long obstructing progress and telling people they could do so much better, and then have to admit that their plan is sooo much worse.
How the hell do you expect him to get anything done that has to be done with the "support" of congress when the entire left side of the aisle and an eighth of the right side is doing anything and everything they can to appose him? (btw he has done work on commercial business regulations, the pipeline, border security, illegal immigration reform, deportation enforcement)
God Knows and Time Knows
i dont see any hope. Trump's hopeless
he's been in there for quite some time now and we have seen nothing yet that he will complete what he said he would do.