The debate "You can be Christian and still believe in evolution and the Big Bang" was started by
May 31, 2016, 11:23 am.
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no single change separates us from other apes. the accumulation of many many changes eventually make it that procreation fails to work. there is also an in between stage where procreation works but the result is sterile. (mules, ligers)
why would these almost procreation exist in non/sudden evolution models?
So apes are just as much man as we are in that case. If it were to be such a blur, we could continually procreate with your common zoo animals. At some point, a distinction comes along.
there is no point where we evolved into ourselves. evolution is gradual, not a sudden upgrade. What separates us from our ancestors is not a sudden division, but several blurry millenia of small changes. in fact, the entire history of life is one big blurry mess of constant evolution, we only categorize it into specific steps for our convenience (limitations)
I will explain. I don't reject evolution. I'm saying that at some point we evolved into ourselves and that point is Adam and Eve. That is what I'm saying is irrefutable.
if we are not in contention about the evolution of our species, then what was the issue about who fathered humanity?
I dont believe we are in contention.
we evolved. we are the culmination of eons of a relentless arms race. the undisputed, it's no longer even fair, champion apex predator. currently seeking the title of game masters of a tiny little world, within a seemingly endless universe of possibilities.
You should combine the two, it creates an ignorant society when you can't/won't. Some people only believe in science and some only believe in relgion. A more tolerant world is a more peaceful world.
WE SHOULD NEVER MIX RELIGION WITH SCIENCE. BCZ BOTH DOESNT GO TOGETHER. SCIENCE BELIEVES IN TRUTH. AND RELIGION BELIVES IN MIRACLES AND OTHER STUFFS
So there can be absolutely no union. Science, by its very nature can't explain God?
I have a question for you all then: if Adam and Eve didn't exist, who fathered humanity. It had to have started at some point,
Adam and Eve are symbolic of the birth of Judaism.
and I didn't say it concides with scientific findings. I said it doesn't contradict them.
very big difference.
there is absolutely no evidence Adam and Eve existed. it is pretty much impossible that story is true.
and you can link us to the evidence for Adam and eve?
That is a false argument. Adam and Eve did exist which is scientifically true
He didn't address that issue. He only stated that the belief that God created our conception of physics, etc. coincides with science.
Also if the bible isn't taken literally at some junctions it complete topples the religion. if Adam and eve aren't literally than there would be no cause for sin and thus no cause for Jesus.
That idea is just a ridiculous to a scientist as the idea a magical unicorn crapped the universe into existence. It's like me saying that it's unscientific for a god to be causing the rain but it is scientific if a god created the water cycle. give me a break
Sure you can be a Christian and beliebe the Big Bang but only if you commit so much sophistry and twist your religious texts so much that really you could posit anything and claim the bible supports or condemns it
Interestingly enough, a Catholic priest was one of the drivers of the big bang theory.
a literal reading of the Bible is not compatible with the findings of science. the idea that the earth was formed prior to other celestial bodies is currently a silly position to hold.
the idea of the Christian God setting up the laws of the universe and doing his work through the big bang and the process of evolution is compatible with the findings of science.