The debate "You can't get an ought from an is" was started by
March 5, 2015, 10:50 am.
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I_Voyager posted 1 argument, PsychDave posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
Bailz, LeaderOfDiscussion, renatus8993 and 3 visitors agree.
I_Voyager, PsychDave and 4 visitors disagree.
Some oughts come from pure ideals but most come from seeing something that is, that we feel should be different. People looked around at apartheid (is) and saw that it should be better (ought). The speeches about it were speeches about what needed to change to make the world better. Most times we think of what ought to be it is based on, and in contrast to, what is but shouldn't be.
You can only get an ought from an is. The opposite of what is, isn't. Time travel isn't, not may I ought from it. But ought not be a pedofile can be distilled from what a child is, what harm to a child does, and how the human state and society together form to be what is around us. Given a number of is' we can know what ought to be, and only from what is can we know what we ought to do.